01-25-2013, 04:48 AM
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manuel tranny on a 3400?
What do i all need to make my alero 3.4 auto into stick?
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01-25-2013, 07:00 AM
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A lot. You can either do a 5-speed swap from a Sunfire/Cavalier or a 6-speed swap from a Pontiac G6. The 6-Speed swap is much more expensive and takes extra effort. The easiest route is the 5-speed F23 swap. You can't use the F23 that came in the Alero's 2.2 or 2.4 though. It has to be from a 2000-2002 Sunfire/Cavalier "2200 SFI" engine because they share the same belhousing pattern as the 3400 which is called the "GM Metric Pattern".
You'll need at least the following to make it work:
- Manual Alero Subframe
-Manual Alero interior trim pieces
-2200SFI Sunfire/Cav Trans
- Tuning software
There's much more than just this, but I can't think of it right now.... Check this link out:
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...ght=speed+swap
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Hit a dear! Back to stock 3400... For now
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01-25-2013, 07:43 AM
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I've got a 6 speed 3400.
Here's a walk through on a grand am.
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...&highlight=F40
All my parts were new, I paid 4800$ for the whole shebang. 5 speed will be cheaper I think... The F40 (6 speed) will cost (if you do it yourself) will be about 3500$
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01-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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Dang thats alot lol possibly gunna put a new motor in to mines got 227xxxthe lol
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01-25-2013, 03:33 PM
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Hey if it still runs I wouldn't worry about it.
I've got 180k on mine.
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Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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01-25-2013, 03:49 PM
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But 75%of my motor is new lol with parts and what not did fuel pressure regulator last night valve cover gasgets and intake gasgets and throttle body gasget  u was fun but also a pain in the... :/
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01-25-2013, 04:01 PM
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The 6-speed is a lot of work, but very fun.
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01-25-2013, 04:24 PM
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Yeah it can happen,
Mfuller is the only other on here with a 6 speed 3400 alero. 
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S. . .L. . . E . . .E. . .P. . .Y. . .IS A TRAITOR--HE GOT BORED SO HE SOLD ME AFTER HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A RICE ROCKET
Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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01-25-2013, 04:36 PM
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6 speed would be really fun but itll cost alot lol gotta wait for my tax return and il do a swap
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01-25-2013, 04:51 PM
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Best of luck
Research research.
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S. . .L. . . E . . .E. . .P. . .Y. . .IS A TRAITOR--HE GOT BORED SO HE SOLD ME AFTER HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A RICE ROCKET
Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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01-25-2013, 05:01 PM
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Thanks  so lost my job due to the economy so hopefully taxes come soon! Im gettingjust 2 grand back  u i could prob pick up a wrecked 5 speed alero if jawa has one at his junk yard and just do a swap like that 
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01-25-2013, 05:16 PM
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not sure if you were meaning for the tranny cuz if you were that won't work since the 3400 has a different bell housing than the 4cyl aleros, however there are other parts that need to be off an alero
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01-25-2013, 06:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiwnath
A lot. You can either do a 5-speed swap from a Sunfire/Cavalier or a 6-speed swap from a Pontiac G6. The 6-Speed swap is much more expensive and takes extra effort. The easiest route is the 5-speed F23 swap. You can't use the F23 that came in the Alero's 2.2 or 2.4 though. It has to be from a 2000-2002 Sunfire/Cavalier "2200 SFI" engine because they share the same belhousing pattern as the 3400 which is called the "GM Metric Pattern".
You'll need at least the following to make it work:
- Manual Alero Subframe
-Manual Alero interior trim pieces
-2200SFI Sunfire/Cav Trans
- Tuning software
There's much more than just this, but I can't think of it right now.... Check this link out:
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...ght=speed+swap
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This is what you need for the 5 speed.
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S. . .L. . . E . . .E. . .P. . .Y. . .IS A TRAITOR--HE GOT BORED SO HE SOLD ME AFTER HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A RICE ROCKET
Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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01-25-2013, 06:39 PM
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I'm not one to say much, but wouldn't it be better for you to get a job before you do the swap? I don't mean to be disrespectful, but $2000 isn't gonna cut it for a good swap, not to mention you always have to be prepared for an emergency.
I'd rather save up if I was you for a 6 speed.
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01-25-2013, 07:38 PM
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Agree, get a job.
Do a 5 speed, like no one on here has it.
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S. . .L. . . E . . .E. . .P. . .Y. . .IS A TRAITOR--HE GOT BORED SO HE SOLD ME AFTER HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A RICE ROCKET
Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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01-25-2013, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepyalero
Agree, get a job.
Do a 5 speed, like no one on here has it.
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Already got 4the interveiws lined up 
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01-25-2013, 08:11 PM
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Plus i also help friends and family with work that they need done on their vehicals so thats also income making 400a a week for now till i do road striping that was 7 to 800the a week alot of work but its worth it but if anyone has done a grand am dash swap id like to no it kinda looks cools
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01-25-2013, 08:20 PM
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tw0123 has done full ga interior swap, but his picture of it won't appear anymore so he will have to share it with you
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01-25-2013, 08:27 PM
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Alright thanks! Il pm him ima try to do it when i get on a computer... my phone is not the best when it comes to the internet :/
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01-25-2013, 09:32 PM
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Here's a link to the GA alero.
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36676
It's not a how to, but it's there. Basically everything will swap into it. Direct fit. All you need to do is go to the junkyard and find a donor car. I'd recommend 2002-2004 so you have the 2DIN radio, whereas 1999-2001 have 1 1/2DIN.
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