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Old 12-18-2007, 10:36 AM   #1
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There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power
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There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power

HOW MUCH ?

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wow thats a good price $2700 for the stage 2
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There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power

So if I did go with the stage 2 kit what would I do about my fuel system?

Did Jackal make his own Turbo manifold and everything?
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So if I did go with the stage 2 kit what would I do about my fuel system?

Did Jackal make his own Turbo manifold and everything?

It comes with injectors, doesn't it?

I would think the stock pump would be fine, but you could get an upgraded one. Stock fuel pumps suck anyway
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There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Myth!

The heat in the compresed air is from the compressing, not from the type of device doing the compressing. Under hood temps might be slightly higher with a turbo, but not that much different, and definatly won't hurt any performance aspect. Turbos also need heat to work, look up turbine theory for a more in depth explaination.

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Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power

Is he back in buisness? I haven't heard anything good bout dealing with him, ever.
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turbo, hands down. you could probably piece together a budget turbo build for $2k. if you went N/A, that same amount of money gets you headers, heads, and a cam with a couple hundred bucks to spare, but no where near the power level. if i could do it again i would have just had the blown head gasket fixed and slapped a t3/t4 turbo on it and called it a day.

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Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Partially true. The S/C will make power at low end quicker. The turbo will reach PEAK boost quicker. The turbo produces more heat on the outside, the S/C produces more heat on the inside, and is harder to intercool, not to mention it's another HP-sapping drag on the rotational mass.

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Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out. The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power
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wow thats a good price $2700 for the stage 2

It's a rediculous price for what you get vs. twice the power or more on a stock engine with a turbo slapped on it.

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if i remember right, blackjack tried to save as much money as he could on his set-up. He made a lot of stuff.... just PM him and he will help you out.

and did some VERY careful shopping.

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Myth!
The heat in the compresed air is from the compressing, not from the type of device doing the compressing. Under hood temps might be slightly higher with a turbo, but not that much different, and definatly won't hurt any performance aspect. Turbos also need heat to work, look up turbine theory for a more in depth explaination.

Is he back in buisness? I haven't heard anything good bout dealing with him, ever.

agreed on both counts.
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